for us. and if we're a part of the creation of that along with our broadband colleagues, then this is going to go a lot more quickly. but if they put it together, put it out, it's wrong, it's got to go back, this could take a long, long time. i mean, when you think back on the analog to digital transition that i was a party to, that didn't affect all that much p repacking. this will affect 60%, perhaps, of the broadcast stations in this country. a huge job. big job. so it's important to get it right in the beginning. >> host: and finally, senator smith, last week on this program senator mark pryor, who's the chair of a commerce subcommittee, we asked him about whether or not the '96 telecom act needs to be updated and overhauled, and he expressed some reservations about that because it would open this can of worms, etc., etc., etc. from the nab's point of view -- >> guest: i suppose be, i never voted for a perfect law. they were always the product of compromise and trade-offs, and there's not